First time at Casino Poker - at Harrah's in East Chicago, IN
by MDL
On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 05:07:28 -0800, in rec.gambling.poker
packerfn1@yahoo.com(MDL) wrote:
I always enjoy reading all of the RGP trip reports. After my first
experience in casino poker on Monday I felt disappointed that I didn't
really think I had much to share with the group. Then I started replying to
a question on Chicago Poker on the 2+2 board and realized I actually had the
exact kind of experiences that many in the group would enjoy, hopefully find
humorous and maybe some info that casino newbies would appreciate. Since I
didn't take notes I don't have many of those great hand details that so many
include.. (how do you do that BTW, do you take notes at the table? Does any
one mind?) so these would be more observational than chronological.
Observation #1: A little about the Poker room at Harrah's riverboat in East
Chicago, IN
In the Chicago area on business I was psyched to finally be able to apply
the practice and studying I've been doing for the past 3 months (hard to do
living in WI). When I called a few month's ago the room's manager Mitch said
if I knew I was coming down, call and let them know and they could pre-list
my name. Now this was especially important because I specifically went to
Harrah's instead of Hollywood Casino in Aurora because Harrah's spreads a 3-
6-12 Half HE/Half Omaha Hi game as opposed to Hollywood's minimum of 5-10.
The trick is that only one table is spread like this and the rest start at
10-20. So I call and the brush say's he'll hold my name from 7-7:15 PM.
Great!
So of course I arrive precisely at 7:19 and my name has been wiped
(I know, I'm not complaining, but man I was coming from WI). So I wait, and
watch, (well worth it BTW). The only reason I mention all of this is that
trying to get people off that 3-6-12 table is like trying to take a gun from
an NRA member (no flames please, it was the cleverest thing I could think of
at the time). Finally at about 10PM I get seated. I don't really have
anything to compare the room to but it seemed nice enough, and definitely
full of people.
Observation #2 - A dose of reality - written for casino poker newbies.
Be prepared to invest a little money in your education at the tables. Maybe
this is self evident to most but I must say after studying (not reading,
studying) Lee Jones' Winning Low-Limit Hold 'Em book
(A MUST READ BTW), practicing reading flops,
simulating HE on the computer, etc.. I expected to crush any low limit table
I sat at. Although I thought I held my own (see later observations) I
dropped about $45 in about 5 hours play - at a table that I thought I should
have had a great chance at beating handily. It actually is unbelievable to
really experience the Loose Passive play after reading about it for so long,
(Could this opportunity actually exist?). Believe me it exists.
Five to eight people
saw every flop - unraised almost all the time. Talk about passive, I can
remember at least 3 hands where every round after the flop was checked
around - the table was just waiting for someone to take control of it. Well
it sure wasn't me. I was just concerned about keeping up, reading the cards
correctly, memorizing my hole cards, trying to determine how many outs I had
etc... I was amazed at how quickly the 10-20 games moved (just as loose by
the way) I'm still reading/analyzing the flop and the dealer's ready to flip
the turn card. There's no way to prepare for the experience except to get
into it so I'm not saying stay away. I'm just suggesting that you allow for
a bit of a learning curve even if you've done your homework like I had.
Observation #3- My first bad beat... or was it? You tell me..
Hold Em, middle position, about my 15th hand (have played nothing yet). Peek
at my cards to see KK. (Woohoo!). Ok, I'm smooth.. I know how to do this...3
callers to me, I raise, guy behind me re-raises, and about 5 people end up
seeing the flop when I just call. Flop: 8K2 rainbow. Flash to Lee Jones'
statement "Play flopped sets fast.. if you lose when flopping a set you
should lose a lot of money (paraphrased foreshadowing)" Check to me, I bet,
guy behind calls as does one other. Turn is a rag so I figure this will do
it. Check, I bet, Guy Calls?, and checker folds. River (you guessed it) A.
I wince and check. guy bets, I call, he shows AA and rakes the pot. I don't
win my first pot until at least an hour and half of play. Welcome to casino
poker.
Observation #4 - An obvious tell
I think shuffling chips is kinda neat (i know it's probably stupid) and I
figured I'd just pick that right up and figure out how to do it at the table
there. So ok you take 8 chips, cut them in half, put your hand like so
and... well let's try it again...no its not like that...ok, watch the older
lady with all the chips do it....how does she do that?... After two hours of
blatantly signifying that this was my first time playing by trying
unsuccessfully to shuffle 6 little chips I gave up... for now.
Observation #5 - I have the right attitude, some others don't.
I truly have a goal to become a really good casino poker player. To the
point of it becoming a secondary, "fun" source of income. Surely I have a
long way to go, but I will always strive to be the kind of player that
people like to play against at the table. I may have been quiet for my first
time but I smiled, laughed at other's humor, and kept my composure over this
situation that occurred.
Showdown among 5 players (post-flop, turn and river
all checked around) Board reads QQ887. I flip my A6s (hey it was checked
around) over face up in front of me. Dealer looks around for a Q, doesn't
find one, looks for an 8, nope. Guy in seat 1 says "I've got a 7" like he
wins it. Dealer starts grabbing cards, including mine, when I finally figure
out "Wait a minute the 7 doesn't play, my A is the high kicker, I win." Of
course others at the table also figured this out and correct the dealer.
Dealer looks at remaining hands and sees 2 guys with Ks and starts chopping
the pot and I say... Whoa there, I had an A and you mucked it. Seat 2 says,
yep I saw it. Dealer kind of blows it off and starts sliding the pot to
these two guys. Now I protested again, but really didn't make a big deal out
of it (the pot was maybe $15) and ask for the floor or anything, because I
figured it was a good lesson that I won't forget - Protect my hand at all
times! I'm glad I learned it for $20 and not for $100 at some future time.
The point is I didn't stay mad, I didn't tilt. And I will try to keep that
going for as long as I play cards.
Observation #5a: I see my first tilt.
Watching 10-20 before I play, trying to keep up with the speed and get reads
on player's hands. Seems like the entire table sees the Flop of AQ6, bets,
raises, etc.. Turn comes rag, bets, raises, folds down to two guys. River:
6. Bet, raises, finally called and leader turns over AQ. Guy in early
position turns over Q6o for the full house. Loser flings cards across the
table at the dealer and starts berating the winner (as he's pulling in all
these chips) "Don't you ever f**ing fold" and F this and then over the next
few hands just starts bitching at everybody at the table (while playing way
too aggressively and losing with obvious junk hands). I can tell I'm going to
love the first time I can put someone on tilt - accidentally of course. :)
Observation #6: I suck at Omaha Hi
I even practiced dealing entire tables full of hands to decide what I would
and wouldn't play preflop. I think I've got the idea now though, definitely
a nut game with 8 people seeing every flop, so if I don't have it or can't
draw to it I gotta get out. I just found it difficult to quickly assess
where I stood with all of the possibilities out there. If I'm going to
return to that game, I need to practice reading my hand and the flop faster
and better, and throw away the non-nuts. Any help from the group would be
appreciated.
Observation #7:It's all one big session, (unless you live 2 ½ hours away
from any casino)
I wasn't playing with mortgage or food money and I established with myself
that it would be ok if I busted out on my first trip for some reason
(besides I was ready to crush this game remember), but $100 is still $100
and with a new house, a wedding in 3 weeks, etc... I really wanted to come
away at least even... Besides, I wanted to show my non poker fiance that I
could really do this. This was a mistake. Towards the end I chased some
hands I shouldn't have and it cost me money. It's tough not making that
mistake when you can't play often, but I think I can be disciplined enough
to not make it again. Sorry honey. :)
Observation #8 - Someone at the table is newer than me.
About midnight young kid (yk) sits down on dealers right with a rack of
whites. Seems to be his first time (or a really good act I thought). First
Hand - Omaha Hi 7 see the flop of K6x with two clubs on the board. Bets go
around, turn is the third club. Good player in seat 3 raises a bet and all
fold to yk who calls - heads up. River is no help and Seat 3 bets $12. yk
looks at his cards, looks at the board, looks at his cards again, and raises
$12. Now Seat 3 pauses, looks at his cards, at the board and re-raises, yk
just calls. Seat 3 turns over the nut flush. yk smiles big and lays down KK6
for what he thinks is a full house. Dealer "Uh.. you only play two cards
sir.." Table is split between grimaces and trying not to laugh.
Well, that's enough. I hope you enjoyed my observations. Any newbies who
want to keep in touch feel free to email me or post responses. Good luck at
the tables. I appreciate all feedback.
Michael
Our Hero's tale continues in this report: Newbie Update (the Nightmare) - Aurora, IL by MDL - 6/29/99
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